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 Mar 13 2012, 12:19 PM
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Superstar  Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147  |
Just posting to see if the Forum is still alive. It's been too quiet for the past 3 days. Aren't you all excited about the 2012 Mets? I'm anxious to see some of the new faces on tv only. No visits to the Park for me this year unless Selig demands the sale of the team.
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Mar 13 2012, 01:07 PM
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Veteran Group: Validated Members Posts: 1,050 Joined: 9-June 05 Member No.: 604 |
Still lurking about. Not much to comment on...except a bunch of pulled muscles. Tired of Wilpons and Alderson. No zip this spring training at all.
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Mar 13 2012, 01:19 PM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
Plenty of zip. They are zipping quickly to the trainers room. Can you have 25 players on the disabled list? Just 3 weeks until opening day and already a dozen injured. Is it possible the Wilpons have instilled negative motivation.
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Mar 13 2012, 02:22 PM
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 Moderator  Group: Mods Posts: 7,412 Joined: 14-January 04 From: California Member No.: 52 |
We're all on the DL with the rest of the Metsies. Get back to us in 60 days.
-------------------- People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
- Rogers Hornsby QUOTE Trading specs for Santana would be a disaster, just ask the Twins. -mvr 7/2/12 |
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Mar 14 2012, 04:58 AM
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Veteran Group: Validated Members Posts: 1,227 Joined: 18-January 04 From: New Hartford, CT Member No.: 107 |
Does anybody know how I can get a note to the Wilpons attention? Maybe even Alderson? I doubt they'd read it because they probably have enough hate mail coming in every day. I'd like to offer my services as a long time international coach, author, athlete and exercise physiologist. I would just like the opportunity to watch spring training from Day 1 next year. Then compare that with what they do mid season and a few other times throughout the year. Don't even have to pay me. I just want to see what it is that these guys are doing (or not doing) that gets them so banged up, misdiagnosed, and screwed up.
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Mar 14 2012, 10:25 AM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
QUOTE (RayL @ Mar 14 2012, 05:58 AM)  Does anybody know how I can get a note to the Wilpons attention? Maybe even Alderson? I doubt they'd read it because they probably have enough hate mail coming in every day. I'd like to offer my services as a long time international coach, author, athlete and exercise physiologist. I would just like the opportunity to watch spring training from Day 1 next year. Then compare that with what they do mid season and a few other times throughout the year. Don't even have to pay me. I just want to see what it is that these guys are doing (or not doing) that gets them so banged up, misdiagnosed, and screwed up. It starts at the top! |
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Mar 14 2012, 08:22 PM
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Little Leaguer Group: Validated Members Posts: 65 Joined: 11-November 11 Member No.: 9,455 |
Everyone should have valley fever if they hit like Ike. Duddas been on fire and showing he has the confidence to play in the bigs. Torres reminds me of jay payton. Bay finally got a hit so we should trade him while he's hot. I still don't believe in reuben tejada. Murphy is going to give us heartburn at second all season. Tholes defense looks better, and last but not least Pelfrey being Pelfrey.
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Mar 15 2012, 05:50 AM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
QUOTE (ohm9115 @ Mar 14 2012, 09:22 PM) Everyone should have valley fever if they hit like Ike. Duddas been on fire and showing he has the confidence to play in the bigs. Torres reminds me of jay payton. Bay finally got a hit so we should trade him while he's hot. I still don't believe in reuben tejada. Murphy is going to give us heartburn at second all season. Tholes defense looks better, and last but not least Pelfrey being Pelfrey. Pelfrey is the worst investment on the team and I am aware of Jason Bay's performance. How and why the Mets even considered re-signing Pelf is a reflection on how bad their player evaluation is. Almost as bad as their medical staff. |
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Mar 15 2012, 03:01 PM
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Little Leaguer Group: Validated Members Posts: 65 Joined: 11-November 11 Member No.: 9,455 |
QUOTE (angy @ Mar 15 2012, 05:50 AM) Pelfrey is the worst investment on the team and I am aware of Jason Bay's performance. How and why the Mets even considered re-signing Pelf is a reflection on how bad their player evaluation is. Almost as bad as their medical staff. The medical staff is a whole nother story. I don't know if I can really blame them when I hear things about management telling players to suck it up and get on the feild. in some cases I agree with that theory but maybe u should actually allow the docs to look at the player before you call him wussy. |
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Mar 16 2012, 12:00 PM
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Moderator Group: Mods Posts: 15,130 Joined: 3-February 04 From: Connecticut Member No.: 210 |
QUOTE (angy @ Mar 15 2012, 05:50 AM) Pelfrey is the worst investment on the team and I am aware of Jason Bay's performance. How and why the Mets even considered re-signing Pelf is a reflection on how bad their player evaluation is. Almost as bad as their medical staff. This year is Pelf's last shot to prove something. I've heard rumors that they are looking at bringing back Chris Young. I think if Pelf stinks it up he'll be in the bullpen or AAA or released...... |
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Mar 16 2012, 12:19 PM
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Moderator Group: Mods Posts: 7,412 Joined: 14-January 04 From: California Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (younghem @ Mar 16 2012, 02:00 PM) This year is Pelf's last shot to prove something. I've heard rumors that they are looking at bringing back Chris Young. I think if Pelf stinks it up he'll be in the bullpen or AAA or released...... I'm not worried about Pelfrey yet. I say this every spring because every spring he is horrible. I'll worry about Pelfrey in May if he still stinks. This is an even year so I'm keeping up my Pelfrey is good in even years hope. -------------------- People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
- Rogers Hornsby QUOTE Trading specs for Santana would be a disaster, just ask the Twins. -mvr 7/2/12 |
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Mar 16 2012, 01:58 PM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
QUOTE (Truefan79 @ Mar 16 2012, 01:19 PM) I'm not worried about Pelfrey yet. I say this every spring because every spring he is horrible. I'll worry about Pelfrey in May if he still stinks. This is an even year so I'm keeping up my Pelfrey is good in even years hope. He will stink in May,June,July,etc. He always stinks! Another bust and waste of money like Oliver Perez! |
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Mar 16 2012, 02:28 PM
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Moderator Group: Mods Posts: 7,412 Joined: 14-January 04 From: California Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (angy @ Mar 16 2012, 03:58 PM) He will stink in May,June,July,etc. He always stinks! Another bust and waste of money like Oliver Perez! He's usually good in even numbered years so there's still hope. I'm still not sure why you keep comparing him to Oliver Perez. They are 2 completely different pitchers with completely different issues. 2008: 3.72 ERA 2009: 5.03 ERA 2010: 3.66 ERA 2011: 4.74 ERA 2012: ??? If it continues I suggest signing him to even numbered year contract going forward, lol. Here is an excellent article about Pelfrey btw. Pelfrey Article And as far as a waste of money one of the posters on that site (Kyle) broke down Pelrey's value quite nicely. QUOTE By fWAR, Pelf’s been worth 8.6 WAR, and by bWAR, he’s been worth 5.7 WAR. Taking the conservative 5.7 WAR, and applying a conservative $4M/WAR paid on the free agent market, he’s been worth $22.8M over his Mets career (and that doesn’t include any value he’ll provide in 2012). According to Cot’s, Pelf has been paid $20.2625M, inclusive of his signing bonus and 2012 salary. So despite rounding conservatively at every corner, Pelf *has* provided the value for the money he’s been paid.
-------------------- People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
- Rogers Hornsby QUOTE Trading specs for Santana would be a disaster, just ask the Twins. -mvr 7/2/12 |
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Mar 16 2012, 02:50 PM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
He doesn't win and he is taking a roster spot from some other pitcher who maybe can win. I compare him to Perez because you can turn the game off in the 4th inning of almost every game he pitches.
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Mar 16 2012, 02:57 PM
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Moderator Group: Mods Posts: 7,412 Joined: 14-January 04 From: California Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (angy @ Mar 16 2012, 04:50 PM) He doesn't win and he is taking a roster spot from some other pitcher who maybe can win. I compare him to Perez because you can turn the game off in the 4th inning of almost every game he pitches. And who is this mythical pitcher of wonder? We all want to know. -------------------- People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
- Rogers Hornsby QUOTE Trading specs for Santana would be a disaster, just ask the Twins. -mvr 7/2/12 |
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Mar 16 2012, 03:17 PM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
QUOTE (Truefan79 @ Mar 16 2012, 03:57 PM) And who is this mythical pitcher of wonder? We all want to know. Matt Harvey! Nothing mystical. But he would win more games than Pelf, be more exciting to watch, and the money saved could certainly be used elswhere. |
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Mar 16 2012, 03:49 PM
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Moderator Group: Mods Posts: 7,412 Joined: 14-January 04 From: California Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (angy @ Mar 16 2012, 05:17 PM) Matt Harvey! Nothing mystical. But he would win more games than Pelf, be more exciting to watch, and the money saved could certainly be used elswhere. The issue with that is that Matt Harvey isn't ready. If Mets fans should have learned anything from Pelfrey it's the consequences of rushing a pitching prospect. Only 2 years ago Matt Harvey had a 5 ERA in college and he's only 225 innings removed from that. 90 of which were his final year of college. Not to mention the 4.53 ERA he had in AA last year. Great logic there. The guy who struggled getting AA hitters out is a better choice than the guy who has proven he can get MLB hitters out... The real choices outside of Pelfrey are Chris Schwinden, Jeremy Hefner, and Miguel Batista. So yes, Matt Harvey certainly qualifies as mystical. -------------------- People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
- Rogers Hornsby QUOTE Trading specs for Santana would be a disaster, just ask the Twins. -mvr 7/2/12 |
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Mar 17 2012, 04:30 AM
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Minor Leaguer Group: Validated Members Posts: 252 Joined: 22-November 07 From: East Islip, NY Member No.: 5,325 |
QUOTE (angy @ Mar 16 2012, 03:17 PM) Matt Harvey! Nothing mystical. But he would win more games than Pelf, be more exciting to watch, and the money saved could certainly be used elswhere. No, No, and NO! I don't want to see him until september, or even next season for that matter! --------------------  |
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Mar 17 2012, 09:01 AM
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 Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 2,296 Joined: 18-January 08 From: DC Member No.: 6,221 |
QUOTE (younghem @ Mar 16 2012, 01:00 PM) This year is Pelf's last shot to prove something. I've heard rumors that they are looking at bringing back Chris Young. I think if Pelf stinks it up he'll be in the bullpen or AAA or released...... After this year's MLB and NFL seasons, perhaps Pelfrey and Sanchez will buy a pub or something together..... Last chance for both and I am not feeling too good about it. -------------------- "Punk is whatever we made it to be"
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Mar 17 2012, 02:58 PM
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Minor Leaguer Group: Validated Members Posts: 252 Joined: 22-November 07 From: East Islip, NY Member No.: 5,325 |
QUOTE (JerseyScott @ Mar 17 2012, 09:01 AM) After this year's MLB and NFL seasons, perhaps Pelfrey and Sanchez will buy a pub or something together..... Last chance for both and I am not feeling too good about it. And didnt the jets just give sanchez an extension? lol -------------------- |
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Mar 18 2012, 01:25 PM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
Is Pelfrey a witness for the Wilpons in the Maddof trial. What other reason would the Mets waste $6mil on this bum. He really sucks! 8 runs again today in less than 4 innings. His ST era is around 30.Bring back Oliver Perez!
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Mar 19 2012, 10:49 PM
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 Minor Leaguer Group: Validated Members Posts: 172 Joined: 24-March 10 From: Long Island, NY Member No.: 8,486 |
The key to winning a game with Pelfrey is having someone warm up in the bullpen as soon as he takes the mound.
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Mar 21 2012, 02:16 PM
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Veteran Group: Validated Members Posts: 1,050 Joined: 9-June 05 Member No.: 604 |
QUOTE (JerseyScott @ Mar 17 2012, 10:01 AM) After this year's MLB and NFL seasons, perhaps Pelfrey and Sanchez will buy a pub or something together..... Last chance for both and I am not feeling too good about it. they can call their joint the 'Scrub Shop' |
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Mar 27 2012, 12:36 AM
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Little Leaguer Group: Validated Members Posts: 20 Joined: 21-January 12 Member No.: 10,232 |
QUOTE (angy @ Mar 13 2012, 01:19 PM) Just posting to see if the Forum is still alive. It's been too quiet for the past 3 days. Aren't you all excited about the 2012 Mets? I'm anxious to see some of the new faces on tv only. No visits to the Park for me this year unless Selig demands the sale of the team. A sign of the times. Spring training is always a poor indicator of how a team will perform over 162 games. Waiting for opening day. -------------------- |
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Apr 6 2012, 06:45 AM
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Little Leaguer Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 6-April 12 Member No.: 11,110 |
it the forum dying? did i join too late?
i am always excited about the new faces on tv so i am with you on that one 
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Apr 6 2012, 09:40 AM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 14-February 07 From: tenafly, NJ Member No.: 1,147 |
QUOTE (CabreraM @ Apr 6 2012, 07:45 AM) it the forum dying? did i join too late? i am always excited about the new faces on tv so i am with you on that one If you like new faces, the Mets are the team to watch. |
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May 2 2012, 02:44 PM
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Moderator Group: Mods Posts: 7,412 Joined: 14-January 04 From: California Member No.: 52 |
2 things:
I told you so Be careful what you wish for That's all, good day fellows and ladies. -------------------- People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
- Rogers Hornsby QUOTE Trading specs for Santana would be a disaster, just ask the Twins. -mvr 7/2/12 |
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May 3 2012, 08:04 AM
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Veteran Group: Validated Members Posts: 1,050 Joined: 9-June 05 Member No.: 604 |
I think the quiet is a sign of the times. Very low expectations, battle fatigue over ownership, what Jimmy Carter referred to as 'malaise.' It will take a whole bunch of winning to perk things up. I am happy for D Wright and hope he keeps it up. I feel sorry for Santana who cant get a run in support. The pen stinks as usual. Tejada is good... hope he keeps it up. Still waiting on Ike and Duda. Cpt. Kirk has done well as has Thole to date. it reminds me of 1982-1983.
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May 3 2012, 11:03 AM
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Superstar Group: Validated Members Posts: 3,403 Joined: 20-February 06 Member No.: 684 |
QUOTE (Lostmet @ May 3 2012, 09:04 AM) I think the quiet is a sign of the times. Very low expectations, battle fatigue over ownership, what Jimmy Carter referred to as 'malaise.' It will take a whole bunch of winning to perk things up. I am happy for D Wright and hope he keeps it up. I feel sorry for Santana who cant get a run in support. The pen stinks as usual. Tejada is good... hope he keeps it up. Still waiting on Ike and Duda. Cpt. Kirk has done well as has Thole to date. it reminds me of 1982-1983. Here is the ultimate question - Why should the patrons of a business care more about it's success than its owners? |
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May 3 2012, 12:29 PM
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 23-February 12 Member No.: 10,680 |
QUOTE (MeanBaller @ May 3 2012, 12:03 PM) Here is the ultimate question - Why should the patrons of a business care more about it's success than its owners? If the owners invest heavily in payroll (as they have) and ultimately the team doesnt win some accuse them of being cheap and or stupid and change the subject from their investment in success. If the owners invest heavily in a new stadium (as they have) because they want what is best for the team and the fans, some accuse them of loving the dodgers. A state of the art stadium is a selling point to attracting winning players. If the owners hire three of the best baseball executives to run baseball operations because they want to build a winner, some claim these men have no control. Proof will be in the construction of the winner and rebuild these execs are doing right now... If the owners build a sports network to provide a revenue stream to build a winning team, some will not understand the business of baseball and why things are structured the way they are.... And listen to mr weiner, head of the players association on how these owners are committed to winning. Connect the dots. The answer is clear (you might not like it), the wilpons want to win. |
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