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post Apr 5 2012, 09:44 AM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball...ticle-1.1056413


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post Apr 5 2012, 10:26 AM
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"Such was the tale of our two locals. For what it’s worth to the Mets players, when their bosses called looking for a favor, the Yankees were only too happy to inconvenience them."

LOL great article.
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post Apr 5 2012, 10:49 AM
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those lovable wilpons!


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- "Mr. Jeff Wilpon has decided that he’s going to learn how to run a baseball team and take over at the end of the year… Run for the hills, boys. I think probably all those baseball people will bail… Jeff sits there by himself like he’s King Tut waiting for his camel.” - Nelson Doubleday
- "In today's regulatory environment, it's virtually impossible to violate rules." - Bernard Madoff, 10/20/07
The Washington Post decided not to cover Ralph Nader's presidential campaign because he had no chance of winning. Nader's response: "Then why are you covering the Nationals?"
- Asked by the Post about the younger Wilpon's job performance, Fred Wilpon said: "Excellent. Everybody knows ...that."
- "The word 'autonomy' is sometimes misused." - Jeff Wilpon
- "Let’s give Jeff Wilpon the benefit of the doubt here for a moment. Let’s say he is not short-tempered. Tone deaf. A credit seeker. An accountability deflector. A micro-manager. A second-guesser. A less-than-deep thinker. And bad at self-awareness. Fine, he’s none of these things. But here is the problem: This is his perception in the industry." - Joel Sherman
- “Jeff is the problem with the organization, and he is never going to realize that. He cannot help himself. He has to be involved. He will never hire anyone who will not let him have major input. He will not hire anyone who does not run every personnel decision through him.” - Anonymous NL Executive
- "The only person with a worse reputation than Jeff Wilpon in the game is David Samson." - Anonymous AL executive
- "[Mets GM Omar Minaya] isn’t the General Manager. Jeff Wilpon is. Omar’s the one out there to take the heat.” - Peter Gammons
- [Jeff Wilpon's] role in management, according to one official who worked for him, "is to act as president and CEO of second-guessing."
- "I always want Mets fans on my juries," said one noted defense attorney friend, a rabid Yankees fan. "They love losers, even three-time losers like some of my clients. And if Mets fans believe anything the Mets front office says, I can convince them to acquit anybody." - Denis Hamill
- I got a call the other day. They noted I had been a long term season ticket holder and asked if I was interested. I immediately exclaimed "I'm so sorry for the Wilpon Family". He asked what I meant. I told the guy if he looked in my file, he'd see a note to call me after both Fred and Jeff dropped dead, and not a day before. - Meanballer
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post Apr 5 2012, 11:49 AM
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This idea was completely stupid......but........does it really matter? If everyone really thinks were gonna be horrible anyway then who cares? If your like me anjd think that tbe mets r gonna surprise some people then yeah it would have been nice to get some practice in at citi but realistically by next week they will all be used to to new dimensions and no one will even remeber that this happened.
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post Apr 5 2012, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (ohm9115 @ Apr 5 2012, 12:49 PM) *
This idea was completely stupid......but........does it really matter? If everyone really thinks were gonna be horrible anyway then who cares? If your like me anjd think that tbe mets r gonna surprise some people then yeah it would have been nice to get some practice in at citi but realistically by next week they will all be used to to new dimensions and no one will even remeber that this happened.


I don't think it's about how it impacts the Mets chances but it does speak to the quality and professionalism of the message management sends Collins and his players.


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post Apr 5 2012, 03:32 PM
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I don't think it's about how it impacts the Mets chances but it does speak to the quality and professionalism of the message management sends Collins and his players.

And their FANS!
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post Apr 5 2012, 05:11 PM
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See, thes are the kinds of things that people still find a way to overlook in the endless quest to happily root root root for the home team regardless of the mess that's been made of it.

How many different ways do people have to twist to not see how money drives far too many of the decisions of ownership. The terrible state of affairs is the love of money - they spent hesitantly and then foolishly to make up for it; they hocked their team, they hocked the network that was formed with financial assets stripped from the team, and then they either knowingly or blindly invested in a scam because of their hunger for even more money.

This little schtick was particularly pathetic. Scheduling a meaningless game that had nothing to do with what spring training is intended to be against a Yankee squad that they knew was going to be essentially bench players and then jacking up prices is so sick. So sad.

Still, because it was billed as a Subway Series game, 7.644 people showed up. Assume they paid $50 each on average - which is high. That's a gross of $382K - call it $500K after concessions - but before costs. And that's being generous.

Is that what the Wilpons have come to?

And look at the small potatoes involved and the GM came to the team to apologize because the decision came from up high? That tells you how much influence and authority Alderson has - he can't even protect his team from being abused for puny amounts like that.

But you can almost see the wheels spinning in the heads of the Wilpons. Half a mil - that's the cost of one of our league minimum players! Too bad we can't do this 25 times every spring!
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:11 AM
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even worse, the yankees fielded basically a AAA team, none of their stars wanted to take a 4 hr bus ride across the state to play in St. Lucie.


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- "Mr. Jeff Wilpon has decided that he’s going to learn how to run a baseball team and take over at the end of the year… Run for the hills, boys. I think probably all those baseball people will bail… Jeff sits there by himself like he’s King Tut waiting for his camel.” - Nelson Doubleday
- "In today's regulatory environment, it's virtually impossible to violate rules." - Bernard Madoff, 10/20/07
The Washington Post decided not to cover Ralph Nader's presidential campaign because he had no chance of winning. Nader's response: "Then why are you covering the Nationals?"
- Asked by the Post about the younger Wilpon's job performance, Fred Wilpon said: "Excellent. Everybody knows ...that."
- "The word 'autonomy' is sometimes misused." - Jeff Wilpon
- "Let’s give Jeff Wilpon the benefit of the doubt here for a moment. Let’s say he is not short-tempered. Tone deaf. A credit seeker. An accountability deflector. A micro-manager. A second-guesser. A less-than-deep thinker. And bad at self-awareness. Fine, he’s none of these things. But here is the problem: This is his perception in the industry." - Joel Sherman
- “Jeff is the problem with the organization, and he is never going to realize that. He cannot help himself. He has to be involved. He will never hire anyone who will not let him have major input. He will not hire anyone who does not run every personnel decision through him.” - Anonymous NL Executive
- "The only person with a worse reputation than Jeff Wilpon in the game is David Samson." - Anonymous AL executive
- "[Mets GM Omar Minaya] isn’t the General Manager. Jeff Wilpon is. Omar’s the one out there to take the heat.” - Peter Gammons
- [Jeff Wilpon's] role in management, according to one official who worked for him, "is to act as president and CEO of second-guessing."
- "I always want Mets fans on my juries," said one noted defense attorney friend, a rabid Yankees fan. "They love losers, even three-time losers like some of my clients. And if Mets fans believe anything the Mets front office says, I can convince them to acquit anybody." - Denis Hamill
- I got a call the other day. They noted I had been a long term season ticket holder and asked if I was interested. I immediately exclaimed "I'm so sorry for the Wilpon Family". He asked what I meant. I told the guy if he looked in my file, he'd see a note to call me after both Fred and Jeff dropped dead, and not a day before. - Meanballer
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